Tuesday, November 13, 2012

UPS ABANDONS THE BOY SCOUTS TODAY!

UPS announced today that they won't sponsor Boy Scouts of America because of their discrimination against homosexuals as members and scoutmasters.
Parents and Grandparents: Do you really think it will be ok to have the gay scoutmaster in the tent with your good looking 17 year old son? Would you have a man in a tent with the girls? 
The Boy Scouts would never bully or identify a boy as homosexual and keep him out because of his non-macho appearance, mannerisms, or interests --but only if he self-identified as homosexual.  If he identifies as homosexual, that justifies, in his mind,  his crushes on,  and pursuits of,  other boys in the organization. 
We need to regard the biological realities of libido (sex drive), orientation, opportunity, attraction and temptation. Young people can have gender identity confusion and orientation flexibility because of early sexual experiences --not to mention the potential for STD's.  
Corporate America needs to find a new cause celebre --how about Santorum's Big 3: tell the youth the truth:  If you 
Graduate h.s.
Get a job
Wait until marriage for sex and babies,
 98% of you will not be on gov't payroll and 77% of you will make an above average income. 
Now there's a good ad campaign!
Meanwhile,  write to:

Mr. D. Scott Davis,
CEO
UPS
55 Glenlake Parkway, NE
Atlanta, GA 30328
1- 404-828-7123 (Eastern Time)

"God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance and have eternal life."--the Bible

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

"The Boy Scouts would never bully or identify a boy as homosexual and keep him out because of his non-macho appearance, mannerisms, or interests --but only if he self-identified as homosexual."

Never, never, never! HAH! I'm sure you're the expert on being a Boy Scout, BARBARA.

Barb said...

My father was a boyscout commissioner -as was a homosexual bachelor friend of his. As far as we know, that man was not a Chester, the Molester. And he was not "out" in those days. And we didn't know of any sordid sexual life on his part. Before the homosexuals wanted to have their difference legalized and championed and promoted to even kindergarteners (true of sex ed in some school districts) homosexuals were less ridiculed in the adult community, at least, and tolerated in scouts, because it would have been impolite to label them or make an issue of a difference they were not admitting to. Yet, there were often reports of molestation in the tents at the Nat'l Scout Jamboree --but I don't remember one kid in my school rumored to be or taunted as homosexual--like happens all the time in middle school today--with girls kissing each other on the mouth and self-identifying as lesbians (anything for attention) --and kids taunting each other as gay or lesbian --and gender insecure, non-macho guys being bullied and labeled. Yes, I'm sure that kind of labeling and bullying goes on today a LOT --because kids aren't being raised to be kind.

I stand by my statement that no kid would be excluded from scouts unless he self-identified as gay or put the moves on the others. Scouts is glad to help the apparently gender insecure find a niche of normal respect and treatment among normal boys --to provide the father-like mentoring they may have lacked in the many homes with single mothers.

People who disapprove homosexuality don't consider it genetic--and there is no evidence that it is.

mud_rake said...

His father and you!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/23/opinion/sunday/bruni-a-fathers-journey-on-gay-marriage.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

Barb said...

I have no idea what your comment means. but I read your link, Mudrake.

It is tragic what this boy concluded about himself --and what his father had to conclude as a result.

It's not genetic or they could find it. There is nothing genetic about doing sodomy. Attractions to attractive people of both sexes are normal (we all are drawn to the beautiful and handsome for friendship) --craving a best friend niche with one of the same sex is absolutely normal. It's not normal to go to bed with same sex people for mutual button-pushing --for sexperimentation. Well, it may be in the realm of normal as "child sex-play" and adolescent curiosity and desire to receive sexual touch --but it is still wrong and to be avoided. Smart parents will monitor and limit overnight buddies --and the scouts rightly discourage homosexuals in the tents together with the youngsters --just as they would not put adult men in the tents with all girls.

Anonymous said...

Barb, you one sick and screwed up woman who clearly hates gay people and buys into all the stereotypical views of them. You are a dangerous and ignorant person who is a a danger to all of us.

Barb said...

So, I'm curious as to your fear of identifying yourself. Obviously, you don't want me to know who you are with your hateful attitude.

I bet you don't know that the percentage of millennials who identify as homosexual went up considerably from 2012 to 2016 --from 5.8% to 8.2%. All of a sudden! Hardly supports the claim to be "born that way." Propaganda in both media and sex ed is effective --loss of religious knowledge and liberal churches are both effective. Hedonistic self-indulgence is effective.

Very few who are at risk and know they should use PReP to prevent acquiring HIV from infected partners are getting the RX's --very few women are getting the Rx's --though they sleep with HIV infected men. Thousands are still dying in America from AIDS annually. 3 fold increase in a recent 20 year period of HPV Cancers --oral-pharyngeal, penile, and anal in the men. and increase in women too: vaginal, anal, oral-pharyngeal and vulvar --from sodomy.

Father God knows best --He designed male and female for 3 purposes --"man should not be alone" so He made a "suitable helpmeet" for him--a woman. 2ndly, "they shall be one flesh" intimate --and that's what their bodies are designed for. 3rdly, "Be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth." That's the purpose of our male-female design --procreation. Even the hetero couples who are infertile for whatever reason "role-model" the natural order --as God designed them to do.

No one HAS to be homosexual. We have control over our minds --our attractions--our loves. St. Paul said homosexual lust comes from worship of creature more than Creator --and "exchange of truth about God for a lie."

Anonymous said...

Oh Barb,

On and on you go with your hateful attitude towards gay people. Only the ignorant hold onto the belief that gay people choose to be gay. Who cares what Paul says. He was a pretty messed up man, as you well know. Jesus said nothing about gay people. He may have been gay himself, hanging around with so many men.

And on you go. As you well know, many and many gay people are Christians and are married within their faith communities. They are committed and having children and have families.

How do you account for the vast majority of gay people who are happy and productive in their lives and make fine contributions to our world?

You cannot because you do not want to. It is inconvenient for you, and you would have to give up your willful ignorance.


Gay people are doing just fine and over and against your propaganda and hate filled campaign to push them back into the closet and deny all the civil rights gains that gay people have achieved over your stupidity and mean spirited attitude.

Too bad. You have lost the battle. LGBT people exist. They marry. Have children. Raise them. Server in the armed forces. Live more and more openly as more and more people know who they really are.

No one has to be as misinformed and nasty as you are. You do not have to live in such ignorance.

Creature worship. Where did you cook that one up? In one of your witches brews?

On and on you go.

Go pick on some other group you despise.

You are a danger to yourself and all of us.

Stay in your house and do not go outside.

No wonder more and more people are leaving churches, especially with faux Christians in them like you.

Oh, bigoted Barb. On and on she goes like a unending, prickly barbed wire, harmful to herself and others.

PS: There are gay scouts and scout masters. They are all doing fine.

You should not be allowed near youth of any kind.

Anonymous said...

Barb,

What is tragic is you.

Barb said...

Well, hello there, Big, Brave ANONYMOUS! Are you the same one who wrote 3 comments?

Anonymous said...

Oh, Barb, Wouldn't you like to know. Get a life and be gone from all of us with your nonsense, bigotry, and ignorance. What a pathetic jerk you are.

Anonymous said...

You crack us up. Sexperimentation. When was the last time, if ever, that you had sex?

Anonymous said...

And role model the natural order!

You defy the natural order. You are abnormal to the max. Who are you anyway? You come across like an old bag.

No one has to be as obnoxious as you are. Were you born this way, or did someone recruit you into this "lifestyle?"

Barb said...

Just Curious, Anony, how did you happen to run across my blog? I like that word, "Sexperimentation" and "sex-ploration" is another one of my making. 2 activities of youth that can lead to trouble if not within a proper framework.

I never had sex, you think? Just four times of course as a married mother who birthed 4.

Are you homosexual, by any chance? FACT: MSM get 80% of the STI's annually --and all the std's are on the increase --costing 16 billion a year --JAMA (last month). Something high risk about the lifestyle.

Whether you like it or not, all the research going back decades shows a higher rate of sex between adult gays and minors than between heterosexuals with under-age girls. Comparing their percentages of the population. Homosexuals have more victims per perpetrator. Teacher-student molestations and clergy-youth involvements are more apt to be homosexual than hetero --proportionate to their percentage of the molesters. (Yes numerically, more heteros commit sex crimes --but there's something askew about 4 per cent of the population committing over 30 per cent of the molestations.

Do you know that gays self-reported 2 stranger encounters per week during the early days of the AIDS crisis --100 a year. That's not love. It's all about orgasms --addiction to them in that way.

You mentioned what I said about worshiping creature more than Creator. That's in Romans 1: 18-32. A very contemporary description of society today. As for Jesus, He defined marriage in Matt 19;4-6 --as being for male and female since and because of Creation of male and female in the beginning.

There are ex-gays and ex-lesbians --and ex-trans --through the pursuit of God and His transforming Grace. God loves us all so much --and gave Christ to give us another chance at glorious immortality Whoever you are, Anony, He loves you --and He would not wanting you speaking so hatefully to me --nor trapped in an LGBT lifestyle. IT isn't inborn --except to the extent that we are all born with a sin nature. It starts with your self-image --somebody damaged it if you are LGBT. Today, it's our culture promoting sodomy as normal. it's not. It's an abuse of the body. Seek and find.

Anonymous said...

I have no idea how I came across your blog, but when I did your ignorance and bigotry cried out for rebuttal.

You are obnoxious and snarky person. What is sad is that you do not even realize what a mess you and your thinking are.

I love how you conflate homosexuality with sex abuse. Clue: there is no evidence to support that. Even the Catholic bishops have refuted that gay priests are not the predators. Those predators are all screwed up and have not identifiable sexual orientation. You need to catch up and learn. But nice try: Anything to advance your hateful agenda.

You speak so hatefully about gays and then get all in a bundle when I call out your false witness.

There are no real ex-gays. They are still gay and struggle with their — as you would call it — their "lifestyle."


Another clue: There is no such thing as a homosexual "lifestyle."

In case you missed it, there are ex ex-gay ministries, which call out all of your ex-gay crap. And there are more than a few testimonials about the harms — well documented — done by trying to change. That is why more and more states are banning co-called reparative or conversion therapy. It does not work and is harmful, there Barb.

Of course, being gay is innate. Talk to any number of LGBTs and they will tell you that. But you take comfort in all your crap and religiosity. You need to listen more and keep your bigoted mouth shut. Perhaps tape it shut permanently.



Love it: you had sex four times in your life. No wonder you are s hung up on sex. In other words, you do not have a sex life. And lecture us on sex.

Your crap takes no account of the vast majority of gay people who are happy in their lives. You also fail to address all the gay Christians who are married — married in their worshiping communities and welcomed into those communities And then more and more of them have children and raise them within their faith traditions. These children are even baptized in their faith traditions. Surely, oh, you great Barbed Wired Barb, have seen how many there are these days. How do you explain that?

But then to confront that reality, your phony piety and junk science would collapse.

Your focus on sodomy is hilarious. You do realize that heterosexuals do sodomy. In fact, from what I can tell, those hetero sexperimenters are increasing in numbers. Why don't you launch an attack on those sodomites.

You asked about me: I am a heterosexual man, married with five children, including two daughters and three sons, one of whom is gay. I know more about the topic of homosexuality than you will ever hope to know. By the way, my gay son and his husband have two children. My wife and I love all our children and our grandchildren.

By the way, my son's self-image is just fine. He excelled in high school (class valedictorian), an athlete big time in high school and college. He also is an alumnus of an Ivy-league college where he met his husband.

We are all active within our church, too, were my son was married.

You need to be confronted in all your heinous bigotry and falsehoods.

Seek and find is a good idea for you.

I will leave it to you to figure out what to do with our family and my son and his family and our lives. We and many others do not fit within in your flawed world view.

You are a sick woman, very sick.

So good luck trying to fit us and all the rest of LGBTs into your perverted view of humanity.

There is nothing normal about you, Barb. Now go deal with it.

Barb said...

Can't believe you missed the humor in saying I had 4 children --thus sex 4 times. DUH! ANONY --I'm married to a good and faithful, handsome and virile man. So of course I've Had a sex life!

Sex is God's gift, His design, His plan for procreation --it's not for orgasms via just any ol' orifice in another warm body. 3 reasons for male and female design 1. companionship "It's not good that man should be alone." 2. Intimacy "the 2 shall be one flesh." 3. Procreation "be fruitful and multiply." The Bible says He abominates same sex relations --as described explicitly in both Leviticus and Romans --and mentioned as sin elsewhere. Yes, you can go to the gay websites and the atheistic sites and pull up some revisionist interps of scripture --but even common sense should tell you where the male sex organ is designed to go --and not go. And the disease and promiscuity rates are part of the picture.


What do you do with the facts that of the Baptist perpetrators of child sexual abuse (CSA) 41 men who molested homosexually were 34% of the perps and 61% of the victims were THEIRS. In GoogleNews CSA sex abuse survey of FRI, Baptist clergy who homosexually molested accounted for 44% of the perps and 54% of the victims. Gay Catholic clergy were 87% of Catholic clergy perps and accounted for 98% of the victims. Gays constituted 33% of all CSA perps and 51% of all the victims in the US overall. Catholic clergy were significantly more homosexual than protestants who were less than .0001. (Cloistered males tend toward self-indulgence with other men --whether in prisons or seminaries for young men/boys.) Yet they are perhaps 2-4% of population?

I've already told you that JAMA / CDC reports over 80% of STD infections per year are MSM --men practicing sodomy.

What about this don't you get? As for genetics --no, there is no gay gene. that idea got disproven quite awhile ago.

I'm related to homosexuals --and I can look back and see reasons --(not my kids, incidentally.)

Barb said...

Yes, I realize that sodomy has become more frequently practiced by heterosexuals since the AIDS epidemic and the sexual revolution made straight men wonder if they were missing something --besides AIDS. JAMA reported (Journal of the AMA --junk science?) that in a recent 20 year period, HPV cancers in men had tripled --from sodomy. Oral-pharyngeal, anal, penile cancers --and in women an increase as well--though not as much --in oral-pharyngeal, anal, vulvar, and vaginal. It's abuse when a man wants to penetrate a woman anally or orally. it is sodomy by long standing historical definitions. And we obviously aren't any smarter about STD's today than in the past --since JAMA just reported epidemic levels in Chlamydia, gonorrhea, HPV infections and cancers, syphilis --and we still get 35,000 new cases of HIV diagnosed annually and a suspected 20,000 more. CDC said half of these cases are in AFr. Am. young MSM --despite their smaller portion of population. That's sad --tragic --that anyone is getting diseases. But they all reject "purity culture" --in favor of continuing the sexual revolution of the promiscuous hippie era. We were way smarter when we valued virginity in the women --such that fewer men had any choice but to practice chastity themselves. Yes, fornication has always led to unwanted pregnancies --but those were resolved by adoptions or marriage, still providing stability for children.

My husband is an MD so we get the journals. He says there is no being "born that way" --it's being molested that way--seduced that way--propagandized that way --self-indulgent that way --with more readily accessible same-sex partners who are more appealing for not getting pregnant --and often not caring if they are faithful or not. But obviously, when a boy child gets involved homosexually, it affects his self-image. There is a "forbidden fruit" aspect to homosexual eroticism.

I'm sorry about your son --AS I said, I had homosexual relatives (one died in early 60's of cancer) --whose gay self image was observable in development. Why is it that the bright and talented think they are so special that they must be "different" and that their "difference" must be dys-phoria or dys-orientation? I believe if there is a good bond between father and son, good Biblical teaching on sex & gender, a relationship with Christ through faith in Him and the Truth of the Word, and no homosexual porn, molestation, seduction, or indulgence with same sex persons, one can avoid gay experience and identity. I don't find that ANY gays honestly talk to people like me about how they came to their gay identity. I did read of one who got molested in the church camp in the middle of the night--and he found it both scary and exciting --awakening him erotically to interest in more such sex-perience. It was an older boy who wasn't even pretending to be "loving." My aunt thinks my cousin got invited to her art teacher's house --a lesbian--and got started there. Another friend thinks her son --child of divorce and estranged father with dominant mannish mother -- got involved with neighborhood men. Another, with a gay employer when he was a teen.

It's the gift that keeps on giving --spreading --wreaking disease, depression, disappointment and hatred for all who don't affirm their predilections.

Barb said...

O yes --I know of a kid who was molested in a church RR --by an older teen (the one whose neighbors influenced him, his mother thought) -and the older teen went on to be quite the gay activist. The younger boy was conflicted for quite awhile after the experience, he said, but I think he remained straight.

Anonymous said...

You do not need to be sorry for my son.

Get a clue.

There were none of the boogeymen in my sons life that you seem to think causes people to be gay. There is no solid evidence that suggests that at all for any gay person.

You would not believe what any gay person tells you about their identity and self-awareness because you have so much ear wax in there. I must say you have some pretty odd and weird people in your family.

How dare you say this about my son: "It's the gift that keeps on giving --spreading --wreaking disease, depression, disappointment and hatred for all who don't affirm their predilections."

You are a vile, bigoted, and mean spirited old bag and prune.

He and his husband and children are doing very well in fact. They get along and interact with our other children and their families, get along quite well, especially at holiday gatherings that bring us all together.

You are a joke. You heard this and you read that and you come up with all the negative examples that are very few. I have heard this and read that about heterosexual. But I do not extrapolate from them to the entire hetero population. Why do you do that for gay people?

Surely, with all your vast "knowledge" and resources, you are able to find information about all the happy LGBTs with spouses and their children. They are also studies that show this too. You won't because you do not want to collapse your incorrect and dangerous views about gay people. You wish to remain an ignorant old bag.

Thank God, the nation has moved beyond your stereotypical and bigoted views.

LGBTs have won the battle and are going to continue to win their civil rights because the truth of their lives has put you to disgrace. More people know that you push out false information as they see the goodness of gays and their lives.

You are not a very convincing person here. Clearly, you are so blinded by your religious bigotry and false information.

And FYI — my son and his husband have never had an STD. They do not know of any of their friends who have had. I can tell you as an army officer there were plenty of straight soldiers who had STD. Go figure, Barbed Wired Old Bag.

Now go find some good stories of gay people and get back to me. You will be surprised.

Anonymous said...

The US Catholic bishops have clearly found that homosexuality is not related to sex abuse. Sex abuse and sexual predators are not the same as sexual orientation. Talk and listen to survivors and you will learn that right away. Read what the bishops have found.

All the survivor groups are clear about this too. None of them attribute being gay to abusing children.

There is little humor to what you say. As I said, I cannot imagine you having sex with anyone.

Just imagine — you have gays in your family. How is all that religiosity and genetics working for you?

Your language is also hilarious: No one practices sodomy. LOL
Your husband is wrong about the origins of homosexuality. So are you. The truth is we do not know the origins of human sexuality, homo or heter.

Barb said...

Like your son and his partner are going to tell you if they have any STD's?

I use the word sodomy because that's the Biblically origined term for perverse sex practices.

My goo'ness, I would never expect the US Catholic bishops to have any objectivity about the homosexuality that is rampant in the priesthood --and seminaries. Evidently, you are ignoring the news data about sexual molestation in the church --and the prevalence of homosexuals among Catholic clergy.

The homosexual family members --were all of the same generation --and none were very religiously raised --not evangelicals any of them. I suspect one may have been involved with his priest who was gay--and the relative was an altar boy for him --and they also had a babysitter man who was convicted of molesting girls in his charge.

"Survivor groups" don't attribute their being gay to having been abused? Really!! think about that. "I was homosexually abused but that's not why I'm gay?" REALLY? Is that what you're saying about "survivor groups?"

Of course we know the origins of human sexuality -- hetero is normal, God-designed --influenced by teaching --Bible-based sex ed --parental influence and role modeling and cultural norms. Homosexuality results from abnormal "sex periences" --molestation --seduction--propaganda--porn--self-indulgence with same sex persons - addiction to orgasms by oral and anal sodomy with same sex persons. Sexual involvement of any kind with same sex persons. Lesbians usually have bad experiences with men.

We have choices --to sin or not to sin. To think about sinning or to shun such thinking. We have to start with KNOWING definitions of sin vs. righteousness --God's design vs. perversion of His design. If your son and you are so SURE that there is nothing wrong with his identity and activities, his marital partnership --so sure that God blesses it and ordains it, then why do you care what others think? I know that Muslims and Hindus and atheists and liberals think I'm wrong --and would not let me teach my beliefs in their schools and religious institutions --so what? I don't have to hate them for disagreeing with my view --I know I'm right --biblically on solid ground. But you and your son don't know you are on Biblical solid ground --and you can't stand ANYONE telling you you are not spiritually safe persisting in perversion --or approving it.